-TEXT-LICENSING SUB-COMMITTEE                                                           23 August 2001

                                                                                                                           (2.30 – 6.00pm)

 

 

PRESENT:   Councillors Knowles (Chair), Cowell, Dixon, J Rosenstiel and T Schofield 

ALSO PRESENT:  Councillor M Schofield (Minute Number 01/m/90)

 

FOR THE INFORMATION OF THE COUNCIL

 

01/m/84          MINUTES

 

The minutes of the meeting held on 14 June 2001 were confirmed as a correct record and signed by the Chair.

 

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An apology for absence was received from Councillor Hipkin.

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-MINUTE_NUMBER-01m/86           DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

 

Councillor T Schofield declared a Code of Conduct (non-financial) interest in minute number 01/m/93  - “Public Entertainment Licence:  Fat Jack’s Public House” - as he was a ward councillor for the area in which the premises were situated.  He remained in the room and took part in the decision.

 

Councillor J Rosenstiel declared Code of Conduct (non-financial) interests, as follows:

 

·               minute number 01/m/92  - “Public Entertainment Licence:  The Boat Race Public House” - as she was a ward councillor for the area in which the premises were situated. 

 

·               minute number 01/m/96  - “Public Entertainment Licence:  CC’s Sports Venue Cafe” - as she served on the committee of the Red Studio Users’ Group.

 

·               minute number 01/m/97  - “Public Entertainment Licence:  Po Na Na Fez Club” - as she was a ward councillor for the area in which the premises were situated. 

 

·               minute number 01/m/98  - “Licensing Hours for Nightclubs” - as she was a ward councillor for the area in which the venues potentially affected were situated. 

 

In each case, she remained in the room and took part in the decision.

Councillor Dixon declared a Code of Conduct (non-financial) interest in minute number 01/m/98  - “Licensing Hours for Nightclubs” - as he was a ward councillor for the area in which the venues potentially affected were situated, and was quoted in the report in this capacity.  He remained in the room and took part in the decision. 

 

01/m/87          PUBLIC ENTERTAINMENT LICENCE:  HMV LION YARD

 

The Head of Environmental Health and Waste Strategy presented a report which recommended that an application for a Public Entertainment Licence for HMV, Lion Yard Shopping Centre, to allow 15 music-only events per year between 9.00am and 8.00pm Monday to Sunday, be deferred. 

 

Resolved (with no votes against) that the application be deferred until the meeting on 18 October 2001, to allow officers to undertake further investigations.

 

01/m/88          PUBLIC ENTERTAINMENT LICENCE:  THE RED BULL PUBLIC HOUSE

 

The Head of Environmental Health and Waste Strategy presented a report which recommended that a temporary Public Entertainment Licence be granted for the Red Bull Public House, Barton Road, to allow two events between 8.00pm and 11.00pm Monday to Saturday and between 7.30pm and 10.30pm Sunday, subject to conditions.  He clarified that the application was for six events per year, and not 12 as originally applied for.  In addition to the letters attached to the report, further correspondence relating to the application had been circulated in advance of the meeting and three letters were tabled.

 

The Police Service and the Fire Service advised that they had no objections to the application, subject to the recommended conditions.  The Police Service commented that the premises were well-run, with very few incidents.

 

Stuart Jemmeson attended in support of the application.  He said that there were no public disorder problems related to the premises.  Most of the clientele were in their 30s or older.  Many of the customers had signed a petition in support of the Licence being granted.

 

Mrs Patterson, a local resident, agreed that the public house was well-run.  However, she was concerned at the level of noise that would be generated by loud music.  There had also been incidents of revellers urinating on private property in the vicinity of the Red Bull.

 

The Chair stated that conditions would be imposed to mitigate the effect of loud music on local residents.

 

In answer to questions from members, Mr Jemmeson explained that the two previous events referred to in paragraph 3.2 of the report had been private parties, and he had informed the Police that these would be taking place.  He believed that the people urinating on private property were not customers of the Red Bull.  He would not be staging events with live rock bands.

 

Resolved (with no votes against) that a Public Entertainment Licence be granted for the Red Bull Public House, Barton Road, subject to the conditions recommended in the report.

 

01/m/89          PUBLIC ENTERTAINMENT LICENCE:  KETTLE’S YARD GALLERY

 

The Head of Environmental Health and Waste Strategy presented a report which recommended that the temporary Public Entertainment Licence for Kettle’s Yard Gallery, Castle Street, allowing three events of chamber, jazz and classical music to take place, be extended until 15 November 2001 to permit a fourth event, subject to existing conditions.

 

The Police Service and the Fire Service advised that they had no objections to the application, subject to the recommended conditions. 

 

Resolved (with no votes against) that the temporary Public Entertainment Licence for Kettle’s Yard Gallery, Castle Street, allowing three events of chamber, jazz and classical music to take place, be extended until 15 November 2001 to permit a fourth event, subject to existing conditions.

 

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-HEADING-PUBLIC ENTERTAINMENT LICENCE:  NEWNHAM CROFT PRIMARY SCHOOL

 

The Head of Environmental Health and Waste Strategy presented a report which recommended that a full Public Entertainment Licence be granted for Newnham Croft Primary School, Chedworth Street, to allow up to 10 events per year between 6.00pm and 11.00pm Monday to Saturday, subject to conditions.  The Licence had previously been granted on a temporary basis, allowing two events.  In addition to the letter attached to the report, further correspondence relating to the application had been circulated in advance of the meeting

 

The Police Service and the Fire Service advised that they had no objections to the application, subject to the recommended conditions. 

 

George Brewster, a local resident, said that, at past events, loud music, a considerable increase in traffic, and late night conversations being held on the street by people leaving the premises had all caused unreasonable disturbance.  The school should be used as a school, and not as a place of entertainment, which was being imposed on local people, with no benefit to them.

 

Councillor M Schofield, a ward councillor, said that the school was situated in a cul-de-sac and some of the houses were very close to the school.  It was reasonable of the local residents to expect that late night entertainment events would not be held at a school.  Part of the problem was that the management of events appeared often to be left to the school’s caretaker, rather than someone in a more senior position.

 

In response to members’ questions, the Head of Environmental Health and Waste Strategy said that, at the events his staff had monitored, the sound levels had been satisfactory when the windows and doors had been kept closed; the events had been managed by a School Governor.  The new head teacher was keen to address some of the problems experienced by local residents in the past.  Some of these problems may have occurred at private parties, for which a Public Entertainment Licence had not been required.

 

The Chair said that she had concerns about the management of events and about smoking in buildings used predominantly by children.  It was unfortunate that nobody from the school was present to answer these points.  She felt that it would be sensible to defer the application to allow answers to these points to be provided.  Councillor J Rosenstiel added that there was a particular concern about the management of events being held by outside organisations hiring the school’s premises.

 

Resolved (with no votes against) that the application be deferred until the meeting on 18 October 2001, to allow further information to be provided by the applicant.

 

01/m/91          PUBLIC ENTERTAINMENT LICENCE:  THE ALMA PUBLIC HOUSE

 

The Head of Environmental Health and Waste Strategy presented a report which recommended that the temporary Public Entertainment Licence for the Alma Public House, Russell Court, be extended for a further temporary period until 13 December 2001, subject to conditions.  He pointed out that this recommendation had been included in section 4 of the report, but had been inadvertently omitted from section 2, “Recommendations”.  In addition to the letters attached to the report, further correspondence relating to the application had been circulated in advance of the meeting.

 

The Police Service and the Fire Service advised that they had no objections to the application, subject to the recommended conditions.  The Police Service commented that the premises were well-run.

 

Ryan Trbojevich attended in support of the application.  He explained that, owing to family circumstances, it had not been possible to organise any events during the period of the temporary Licence, and so no monitoring had taken place.  He would endeavour to organise some events before 13 December, which would give the Sub-Committee an opportunity to assess whether the Licence should be granted on a permanent basis.

 

Anne Anderson, a local resident, acknowledged that the current landlord was doing a good job, but said that she had suffered disturbance from people leaving the Alma late at night.  She also felt that, as the premises were in a residential area, their location was not suitable for a Public Entertainment Licence.  She complained that she and many other local people had not been informed personally by letter of the application, and suggested that the Council should write about an application to anyone who had previously made written representations regarding the granting of a Licence to a particular establishment. 

 

Catherine Cooke, a local resident, stated that the Alma was being well-run by the current landlord, and the extension to the temporary Licence should be granted as it had not yet been possible to hold any events.  However, she felt that it was an unsuitable venue for live music.  She also complained that she had not been informed directly about the application.

 

Mr Barton, a regular customer of the Alma and former musician, said that its clientele were responsible people, mainly aged in their 20s or 30s.  The musicians who would perform there would respect the feelings of local residents and do their best to minimise the effect on their amenity.

 

Resolved (with no votes against) that the temporary Public Entertainment Licence for the Alma Public House, Russell Court, be extended for a further temporary period until 13 December 2001, subject to the conditions recommended in the report.

 

01/m/92          PUBLIC ENTERTAINMENT LICENCE:  THE BOAT RACE PUBLIC HOUSE

 

The Head of Environmental Health and Waste Strategy presented a report which recommended that the Public Entertainment Licence for the Boat Race Public House, East Road, be renewed, having been granted on a temporary basis in February 2001 until 23 August 2001.

 

The Police Service and the Fire Service advised that they had no objections to the application, subject to the recommended conditions.

 

Resolved (with no votes against) that the Public Entertainment Licence for the Boat Race Public House, East Road, be renewed, subject to the existing conditions.

 

01/m/93          PUBLIC ENTERTAINMENT LICENCE:  FAT JACK’S PUBLIC HOUSE

 

The Head of Environmental Health and Waste Strategy presented a report which described an application for a full Public Entertainment Licence for Fat Jack’s Public House, Histon Road, to allow four events per week, Thursday to Saturday between 8.00pm and 11.00pm, and Sunday between 7.30pm and 10.30pm.  The Licence had initially been granted on a temporary basis, allowing three events.  The report recommended that a temporary Licence be granted until 13 December 2001, allowing two events per week, subject to conditions.  The Head of Environmental Health and Waste Strategy added that condition 5 recommended in the report should be deleted.   In addition to the letter attached to the report, further correspondence relating to the application had been circulated in advance of the meeting.

 

The Police Service advised that there had been a number of complaints of noise and disturbance from the premises.  Police officers had been called to the premises twice during August 2001.

 

The Fire Service advised that push-bars and self-closers would need to be installed on the fire exit doors.  With that proviso, it had no objections to the application subject to the recommended conditions.

 

Mr Price attended in support of the application.  He offered explanations for the occasions on which Police officers had been called to the premises.  He added that he was installing double-glazing and a porch at Fat Jack’s, so as to reduce the noise problems, and would employ stewards at events.  He had a petition signed by customers of the premises supporting the application, which was also supported by the brewery, Whitbread.

 

Gill Rees Gluza, a local resident, said that noise from the premises was extremely loud at times, and she had felt threatened on occasions by incidents at the premises.  There had been no improvement in sound-proofing or stewardship.

 

Rosie Cox, a local resident, complained of noise and disturbance caused both by music from the premises and by people leaving the premises late at night.

 

Emma Godfrey-Wynn, a local resident, said that the premises were situated in an inappropriate area for a Public Entertainment Licence.  She had organised a petition signed by local residents against the Licence.  (This had been circulated to members in advance of the meeting.)

 

The Chair stated that she was concerned at the potential disturbance to neighbours and that monitoring should take place; it would therefore be inappropriate to allow two events per week at this stage.  She stressed that the sound insulation work must be completed before any events were held.

 

Resolved that a temporary Public Entertainment Licence be granted for Fat Jack’s, Histon Road, until 13 December 2001, to allow two events only to take place, for monitoring purposes, subject to:

 

a)                 seven days’ notice of each event being given to the Head of Environmental Health and Waste Strategy; and

b)                 the conditions recommended in the report, with the exception of conditions 1 and 5. 

 

01/m/94          PUBLIC ENTERTAINMENT LICENCE:  THE CASTLE PUBLIC HOUSE

 

The Head of Environmental Health and Waste Strategy presented a report which recommended that a full Public Entertainment Licence be granted for the Castle Public House, St Andrew’s Street, to allow two events per month, Tuesday to Thursday, 9.00 – 11.00pm, subject to conditions.  The Licence had initially been granted on a temporary basis to allow three events.

 

The Police Service and the Fire Service advised that they had no objections to the application, subject to the recommended conditions. 

 

Resolved (with no votes against) that a Public Entertainment Licence be granted for the Castle Public House, St Andrew’s Street, to allow events to be held Tuesday to Thursday, subject to the conditions recommended in the report.

 

01/m/95          PUBLIC ENTERTAINMENT LICENCE:  THE RED LION PUBLIC HOUSE

 

The Head of Environmental Health and Waste Strategy presented a report which recommended that a full Public Entertainment Licence be granted for the Red Lion Public House, Mill End Road, to allow events to be held Monday to Saturday 11.00am – 11.00pm and Sunday 12noon – 10.30pm, subject to conditions.  The Licence had initially been granted on a temporary basis to allow three events.  He advised, however, that there was an error in the report:  the recommended start time for events was, in fact, 8.00pm.  Correspondence relating to the application had been circulated in advance of the meeting.

 

The Police Service and the Fire Service advised that they had no objections to the application, subject to the recommended conditions. 

 

Barry Smart attended in support of the application.  He said that he was keen to address the concerns of local residents and was happy to talk to them.  The Chair suggested that he should contact the local residents’ association.

 

In view of the concerns of local residents, the Sub-Committee felt that it would be inappropriate to grant a permanent Licence at this stage.

 

Resolved (with no votes against) that a Public Entertainment Licence be granted for the Red Lion Public House, Mill End Road, on a temporary basis until 13 December 2001, to allow events to be held Monday to Saturday 8.00pm – 11.00pm and Sunday  8.00pm – 10.30pm, subject to the conditions recommended in the report with the exception of condition j.

 

 

01/m/96          PUBLIC ENTERTAINMENT LICENCE:  CC’S SPORTS VENUE CAFÉ

 

The Head of Environmental Health and Waste Strategy presented a report which recommended that a Public Entertainment Licence be granted for CC’s Sports Venue Café, Sturton Street, on a temporary basis until 13 December 2001, subject to conditions.  The Licence had previously been granted on a temporary basis until 23 August 2001.  In addition to the letter attached to the report, further correspondence relating to the application had been circulated in advance of the meeting and a letter was tabled at the meeting.

 

The Police Service and the Fire Service advised that they had no objections to the application, subject to the recommended conditions and to the replacement of a bulb in an emergency light.

 

David Edmunds, who was now the applicant in place of Lee Syrett, attended in support of the application.  He confirmed that the light bulb had already been replaced.  In answer to a question from the Chair, he said that he had mistakenly sent a letter to local residents advising them that the premises could hold 250 people; in fact, they could only hold 200 people and he would be correcting this in a newsletter.

 

Resolved (with no votes against) that a Public Entertainment Licence be granted for CC’s Sports Venue Café, Sturton Street, to allow events to be held between 9.00am and 11.00pm Monday to Saturday, subject to the conditions recommended in the report.

 

01/m/97          PO NA NA FEZ CLUB       

 

The Head of Environmental Health and Waste Strategy presented a report which recommended that the Public Entertainment Licence for the Po Na Na Fez Club, Market Passage, be renewed on a temporary basis until 18 October 2001.  A variation to the Licence, to allow the Club to stay open until 3.00am Monday to Saturday, had previously been granted on a temporary basis in February 2001 until 23 August 2001.

 

Simon Harrow attended in support of the application.  He said that the 3.00am Licence had greatly reduced the level of anti-social behaviour both inside and outside the premises.  Experience had shown that customers left gradually over the course of the hour after 2.00am, rather than in one large crowd at 2.00am.  Customers had found this arrangement to be much more satisfactory.  No alcoholic drinks were sold after 2.00am or consumed after 2.30am.  The only costs had been to his company, in terms of employing staff for longer and taking on extra security staff to ensure that no alcohol was consumed after 2.30am.  

 

Resolved (with no votes against) that the Public Entertainment Licence for the Po Na Na Fez Club, Market Passage, be renewed, subject to the conditions recommended in the report.

01/m/98          LICENSING HOURS FOR NIGHTCLUBS

 

The Head of Environmental Health and Waste Strategy presented a report which reviewed the opening hours of clubs at night which were licensed for public entertainment in the city centre, taking into account the views of interested parties, who had been consulted.  He tabled an additional proposal for inclusion in paragraph 7.1 of the report, as follows:

 

“j)         Applications will be refused where the proposed hours of opening conflict with any applicable planning condition.”

 

A letter relating to the item had been circulated in advance of the meeting.

 

Simon Harrow of the Po Na Na Fez Club attended to speak on the item.  He said that he disagreed with the proposal to allow clubs to open until 3.00am on only one night per week.  He felt that this would be confusing to customers, and his Club was currently allowed to stay open until 3.00am Monday to Saturday, which was proving very successful in terms of reducing anti-social behaviour.  In other cities he was aware of, clubs were permitted to stay open until 3.00am on all nights of the week.  There were only five nightclubs in Cambridge city centre, and so it was not necessary to stagger the 3.00am opening.

 

The Police Service confirmed that it would not be in favour of there being any alcohol sales beyond 2.00am.

 

Councillor J Rosenstiel suggested that clubs could be allowed to take it in turns on a yearly basis to stay open until 3.00am.

 

Councillor J Rosenstiel asked for further details on the point made by the City Centre Manager in the report that staggered closing times had resulted in “fewer incidents and less disturbance when used elsewhere” (paragraph 4.1.6).  The Head of Environmental Health and Waste Strategy said that he would look into this and report back.

 

The Chair stressed that the officers must ensure that the next round of consultation was carried out at a time when university students and staff were available to comment, and not during a vacation period.

 

Resolved (with no votes against) that the proposals for extending club hours be approved in accordance with section 7 of the report, with the following addition to paragraph 7.1:

 

“j)         Applications will be refused where the proposed hours of opening conflict with any applicable planning condition.”

 

 

01/m/99          PUBLIC ENTERTAINMENT LICENCE: TRANSFER OF NAME

 

The Sub-Committee noted the transfer of licensee’s name in respect of the Haymakers Public House, as shown on the agenda.

 

01/m/100        EXCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC

 

Resolved (with no votes against) that the public be excluded from the meeting for the next items on the grounds that if they were present there would be disclosure to them of information defined as exempt from publication by paragraphs 7 and 14 of Part I of Schedule 12a of the Local Government Act 1972.

 

01/m/101        THE STANDING OF AN INDIVIDUAL’S HACKNEY CARRIAGE VEHICLE LICENCE

 

The Head of Transport Services presented a report which requested the Sub-Committee to review the standing of an individual’s Hackney Carriage Vehicle Licence, in the light of a complaint submitted by 10 people.  He also reported a written request from the individual that the case be deferred, as she was on holiday and so unable to attend the meeting.

 

Resolved (with no votes against) that consideration of the report at agenda item 18 be deferred until the meeting on 18 October 2001.

 

01/m/102        THE STANDING OF INDIVIDUALS’ HACKNEY CARRIAGE VEHICLE LICENCES

 

The Head of Transport Services presented reports which requested the Sub-Committee to review the standing of the Hackney Carriage Vehicle Licences of four individuals, in the light of a complaint submitted by 10 people.  The Chair decided that the four cases should be considered simultaneously, as they all related to the same complaint.

 

Two of the individuals concerned attended, addressed the Sub-Committee and answered questions.

 

Two of the people who had submitted the complaint attended, addressed the Sub-Committee and answered questions.

 

Resolved that

 

1)     The individual named in agenda item 19 be given a written warning.

 

2)     The individual named in agenda item 20 be given a written warning.

 

3)     The individual named in agenda item 21 be given a written warning.

4)     No further action be taken in relation to the individual named in agenda item 22.

 

5)     The Environment Committee be asked to review the conditions attached to Hackney Carriage Vehicle Licences.

 

 

 

The meeting ended at 6.00pm.

 

 

 

 

 

CHAIR